Mike, I don't recall the discussion you refer to, but my experience has been that Mann Lake woodenware is pretty bad. Far inferior to what I have received from Kelley over the years. Cheers, John in Dallas [log in to unmask] At 05:08 PM 8/11/96 -0500, Mike Wallace wrote: >Ted was thinking of purchasing some woodenware (actually, a lot) from a >particular supplier until he heard about these complaints, so he wants >to check out what the complaints say before he makes this investment.