. Capt Ken Black wrote >Hi Roy and everyone else, I have already send details of this post to the >list but I'm not sure if it got to you all, can someone out there confirm I >am posting? >I used some bees from a local swarm and made up mini nucs before going to >collect the virgins. About 1.5 hrs later I slipped them in to the closed >mini nuc boxes, on checking this morning 8:00am the nucs are still roaring! >I haven't released the bees yet. >Any advice on what I am doing wrong and perhaps a better method. > >24 hours later UPdate: >Bees have now been released, I will check tonight to see if the virgins are >still around, it looks like one lot have left their box and joined another >around 6ft away. I have made some more minis up this time I found that >taking young bees from the top super on a queen right colony works better as >presumably these bees are relatively young. This is a problem with the list one day your question will raise lots of answers, the next, nothing! It feels like working in a vacuum. I believe your first mistake was using bees from a swarm to make the mini nucs. These bees are unsettled and looking for a home complete with queen, any port in a storm attitude. So the first virgin or queen out and it's off we go, especially if you get lots of bees fanning with their 'Nasanov' glands. To give you an idea of how bees travel. Last year I made up 4 mini nucs, all from the same hive, gave each one a cell emerging at different times. The first one out got all the bees, the remaining cells were deserted, failed to emerge. Strangely enough that virgin failed to mate. Then customers of ours complain about the price of queens!! Secondly, to make mini nucs requires various ages of bees. Provided that original top super has brood, then there is a good chance of getting bees of all age groups. Finally, contrary to popular view, young virgin queens will feed themselves, we have watched them do it. It is only when the queen is mated that she seems to rely on her entourage for food. Hope this answers your questions, if not please try again. **************************************************** * David Eyre 9 Progress Drive, Unit 2, * * The Beeworks, Orillia, Ontario, L3V 6H1. * * [log in to unmask] 705-326-7171 * * http://www.muskoka.net/~beeworks * * Agents for: E H Thorne & B J Sherriff UK. * ****************************************************