Hi: Having discovered the first IBM boot sector virus on the UM campus, I had to become a sort of overnight expert. Viruses are pesky and are being produced at such a fast rate that even the best anti-virus programs may miss some. A good example is a nasty bit of work called the INT-10 virus that keeps popping up on our sister campus. It really does a job on hard disks. First time it appeared (about 1 yr ago) we tried six anti-virus programs. One found INT-10 but could not fix it, one was able to detect and fix it, and four totally missed it. Norton puts out a good product. We use Norton and one other program, which is either available for free or for a very minimal charge. The program is called F-Prot. One of our compyuter gurus says the author of F-Prot is a world class security expert. Over the years, F-Prot has found more viruses than any other program that I have used, public domain or commercial. It certainly is a best buy. Look for it on the web, you can get it via an FTP site. Cheers Jerry Bromenshenk [log in to unmask] http://grizzly.umt.edu/biology/bees