Well Nick I'Ll have to be careful and assume that you report what was told to you and not what you know for facts because you do not represent the facts. When Don Tinker went to N Z with the Hawaii DEpt of Ag people there was in fact an absense of statistical information shared and Mr. Tinker repeatedaly asked for statistical information. It is quite a departure from your earlier statements where you volunteered to be forth right with information. You now seem to have a change of heart. It will not serve you very well to retreat on you word . A man's word is what he has to be judged by and you offered information, I responded with specific questions and now you slickly try to dodge the issue. I am asking real genuine questions that I have tried to gain understanding. You have your very slick 1995 industry profile and your very slick PMS brochure and both publications are written with vague generalizations without statistical information which you volentered to share. Come on you must not intended to welch out on your commitment. Hoping you change your mind and come forward with the data on this information highway. Are we sharing information or are you trying to hide information. You have been so insistent that Hawaii test honeybees and now you refuse to participate in developing the protocal . I'm sure you have volumns of helpful information that you could share if you really wanted to clear the air with cooperation and truth. Hoping you just made a mistake in your last post and that you will do as you said you would and not run from sincere questions.There no place to hide . Wal ter Patton. Walter & Elisabeth Patton, 27-703 A Ka' ie'ie Rd., Papaikou HI.,96781 Ph./Fax. 808-964-5401 E-Mail hihoney@ilhawaii Beekeeper and Bed & Breakfast Owner in Hawaii http://www.alohamall.com/hamakua/hihoney.htm http://www.alohamall.com/hamakua/beeware.htm http://www.alohamall.com/hamakua/lamalani.htm