On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Aaron Morris wrote: > Apologies in advance for going to the list before going to the books, > but the list is here and my books are home, so here is my question. > > I seem to recall that there were problems with formic acid prompting > queen rejection and/or supercedure if used in uncontrolled or high > concentration, which is why it was not a favorable means of varroa > control. > Hi. I have seen some good posts on formic acid.Mostly negative and I have learned a little more about the problems of its use with bees and humans.The people that want the wait and see what the researchers come up with are thinking.Chemicals and delivery are very critical.We don't need another amatraz type problem. It was published as a good mite killer that was safe for the bees if used as instructed. I'm very glad to see people challange the chemical % and delivery system.For now we will have to use some chemicals in the hives. When Vince said BRAVO for the USDA working with USA stock that shows a resistance to Varroa, he was right.That is the real fix. In the mean time we have to go slow on the chemicals.The honeybee pheromone system is very complex.We do not have all the answers in regards to the pheromones in the hive. Therefore we will not know for shure what changes will be taking place do to the addition of a chemical to a hive. Time and tests will give us an idea to what affect it has on a hive.Just because Formic acid has been used in different places for some time now , does-n't qualify it for use , when we read of some of the problems that people have had with its use.When its blessed in the US a few times by our researchers , I will then get some for back up. I hate Varroa because if I don't put a chemical in my hives I will loose them to that mite.I'm trying to learn more about some of the behavior changes we have seen in our bees in the last 5 + years.Chemicals added to the hive fogs the picture. Free H ions in an atmosphere of carbon dioxide and organic acids , which are many , will have some bonding.Which pheromones will be affected I don't know.The researchers up at SFU in BC Canada have done a lot of work on Pheromones and may be able to shed some light on the issue. Best Regards Roy