> I was able to sub this list yesterday after a 2 day battle. > I put in a note about having some bees up around 3,000 feet and Glad you can join us!! I've seen others with this problem. Could it be that you did not move them with the necessary care? If it was a nice day, and you didn't do the right thing, then you would have left the field bees of the first group behind. They would have drifted back into the remaining hives, boosting their populations considerably. The first group under pressure from Varroa are now quite badly depleted with only house bees left, if the weather then goes cold they just do not have enough bees to form a good cluster. ************************************************************ * David J. Eyre CEO 9, Progress Drive, Unit 2, * * The Beeworks Orillia, Ont, Canada, L3V 6H1 * * [log in to unmask] (705) 326 7171 * * http.//www.muskoka.net/~beeworks * *************************************************************