I just asked my friend, John Iannuzzi, why he did not refer someone, Pat Wagner, here in Charles Co. Maryland who was cured of MS and has an ad in the American Bee Journal P.. 695 October issue called "How well are you willing to bee?" I heard her speak several times at our Maryland bee meetings first coming in a wheel chair, then a walker, than with no aid. She was featured on Connie Chung a couple years ago and on several TV news programs. I made a copy of two programs. This young grandmother with an outgoing personality said she was bedridden paying hundreds of dollars every week or so for medicine that did her no good until she took the suggestion of the regional bee inspector - try some bee stings. Some use it for arthritis. She did and felt warm around her sting that she never felt in years. With her husband Ray they use the colony of bees for bee venom therapy and last year she even got some surplus honey. She nick named her husband Sting Ray for being the unpaid doctor. In the Connie Chung 20 min. section it showed dozens of people, mostly women, coming to her house each week for bee stings - free. Not being a doctor she can't charge and can't practice medicine. Some people donated some money. Not everybody is helped. Even today's medicine doesn't help all with our modern medicine. I used bee stings on my hurt knee - twisted in dancing. I did it in public at the Baltimore Co. Md. annual Honey Festival held this year on Oct. 7 & 8, 1995 after wearing 3 bee beards each day (nos. 97-103). The bees didn't sting my face nor the women whom I kissed with the beard and gave each a jar of honey after coming out of the screened tent. After removing the queen cage and "shaving" with a bee brush I applied two or three bee stings on my right knee. My only stings on my face were numbers 45 and 48. I (we) forgot to feed the honeybees with sugar syrup spray. Jack Iannuzzi did not apply the bees on me this year being in Ohio, but he is the instigator of the beebeards in Md. having first seen it in 1978 in Ohio at the EAS meeting. Don Cooke, who was on the cover of the Guinnes Book of records was the one we saw in Ohio. Jack got Don Kolpack to be the first one who also went to Ohio in 1980 (?) for the program "That's Incredible" I started in 1993 at Harbor Place in Baltimore. I couldn't back out then with a large audience. Now I charge money to cover the loss of bees and work. The novelty ran out long ago. I'm typing this on P.W on ASCII. My first a reply to this question didn't go through. John Romanik ************************************************* John Romanik BBKM [log in to unmask] Ellicott City, Maryland USA *********************************************