Before we all send out expletives via the discussion group to our friend from AMWAY, I suggest we send our personal messages directly to his address. I doubt he will be monitoring the bee discussion group for replies. This will avoid the numerous non-relevant replies distributed to all of us, as in the case of our Russian woman friend several weeks ago. I let him know already that if beekeepers were interested in making lots of money, they certainly would not be keeping bees!!! (And that his message was as welcome among us as seagull droppings.) Cheers to all of you! Marc Patry Ottawa, Ontario I thank the god of the nectars for such a great season!