Peter, I have been in Grand Rapids, I am jealous of your more simpler life. Hibbing is also very interesting, a very large hole in the ground. By the way I am in Bountiful, Utah, about 15 miles N of Salt Lake City, 2002 Olympics place. In the future I might have you look up a address, Email and regular, and phone number or two. Thanks for the reply. Talk to you later. Derk