The practice around here is to use an old, ready for the scrap pile hive body with a single frame of old comb and frames with 1/2 inch starter strips of foundation. Good work was done at Cornell as to placement and size. The hive body is a good size. Ten feet up is supposed to be good. We just throw them up on shed and garage roofs with some leveling blocks. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Raymond J. Lackey + + Beekeeper 10 years with 25 colonies on Long Island, NY+ + INTERNET: [log in to unmask] + + Mail: 1260 Walnut Avenue, Bohemia NY 11617 + + Home Phone: 516-567-1936 FAX: 516-262-8053 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ exit