I agree with the astute observation that beekeepers and bee scientist can and should and do talk to each other-that is the beauty of this wonderful form of communication. I am an apiary inspector in Virginia. Half my job is devoted to disease prevention/eradication, but the other half is to learn and disseminate information to my clients-the beekeepers in my region Now, a commercial beekeeper in the Shenandoah Valley is not as interested in the physics of orientation, yet that same person knows a large amount of things about bees and their behavior that most researchers could not learn or would want to learn. Point in fact, let the forum be open, and we can all benefit. If something is not to your liking or interest then delete it. Adam Finkelstein Apiary Inspector VDACS 116 Reservoir St. Harrisonburg, VA 22801 703-433-1006 [log in to unmask]