> I was also pondering something Michael Bush says all the time

Speaking of him, a friend of mine whose observations I trust, as they seem unerringly accurate, told me he visited said beekeeper and observed his colonies in the fall. All of them were dinks, with nothing more than a prayer to carry them over. 

This is the problem with treatment free types, they are mostly talk and show little real evidence. Like faith healers, who can point to people who were healed by faith alone. But the ones that died never show up to testify how often fail healing alone is a failure.

P

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