>Just because it is convenient I generally leave a bait hive in the beeyard. Larry, I am seeing here from the posts that many claim a fair amount of success from 'bait hives' which I am assuming are placed at or near ground level. I myself have had success with empty hives in the yards at ground level. I have also heard many complaints in the past about 'elevated swarm traps' not working well in a beeyard. Many will say, the swarm landed on the trap but did not enter. A main reason why elevated traps tend to fail in beeyards is because the lure 'in this case' acts as a 'settling pheromone' which encourages the swarm to land 'on the trap.' With a swarm remaining in bivowac on the exterior of the trap, it can have the effect of eliminating the trap as a potential nest site. Elevated traps might be better placed at a small distance further to help prevent a swarm from bivouacking on the trap. IMO I suppose I would be a proponent of using bait hives at 'ground level' in a bee yard because, by its position, you would more likely be targeting a swarm in bivouac, actively searching for a void. I expect as always that there are exceptions. Best Wishes, Joe Waggle http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/HistoricalHoneybeeArticles/ "A Hoax.- The account furnished by Captain French, of the Moslem, of an attack by a swarm of natives, upon the ship Argo, of Boston, while passing down the Hoogly, is pronounced by the Boston Daily Mail to be a hoax. The swarm of natives was a swarm of bees, which were repelled by the cook." -1843, Milwaukee, Wisconsin *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm