Yes, there are exceptions to every rule. I concede,,, A trap in the yard is better than none. However, I also agree with Seeley that they bees seldom select a void closer than 300 m. A trap in a bee yard will have an occasional success catching the 'seldom's as the Seeley study suggests. But the 'preferred placement' of a swarm trap, in order to achieve the highest degree of success, according to the Seeley study, is to place the trap 300 or more meters away from your target. I may have been a bit strong in my words describing swarm trap placement in a beeyard as wrong. But it certainly cannot be described as the 'preferred placement.' Best Wishes, Joe Waggle *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm