Comments from the Rite Cell vs. Duragilt thread: "I have experience with wired wax but it's time consuming and has its own issues." "I'll be starting 15 new hives next spring, and have decided to go with wired wax . " Have you tried substituting monofilament fishing line for the wire? It works just as well, it's easier to handle and install, and it lets you cut out a queen cell without the interference of wire. For a video on installing mono in a frame, search on Youtube for the FatBeeMan. It's a funny and instructive video. It's cheaper than wire, too. Incidentally, 8# test is about the right size. Jeff Hills Dorset, VT *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm