>Here is another stick to add. Problems started after low sulfur diesel was being used. Over 90% of my bees with ccd didn't move an inch >then go into the breech once more for something we can use. I suffer from a severe lack of credentials, but you can take my suggestion (or not) and feed VC if you are sure that your bees have ccd. If you do it "right" it will help -- a lot dave *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm