> A new one that we tried was the "Florida Patty" from Dadant that does not > contain soy protein, but brewers yeast and mostly sugar, to avoid hive > beetle larvae infestations. Thanks for the excellent report. I had a chance to look into some of Dave Mendes' hives while in Florida and noticed what was left of the pollen supplement on several hives. When we lifted the patty, we saw a few larvae under it. My understanding is that the patties used were one part yeast and four parts sugar or something of the sort, although I could be wrong, since I spoke to both Dave and Dave while at the location, bit did not think to verify with certainty that the patties I saw there were same the patties we discussed. At ay rate, assuming they were just yeast and sugar, that would seem to indicate that they do attract SHB as well. In regard soy, I am wondering if -- as I understand you to report -- soy supports SHB too well, if that could be an indicator that soy is a superior protein source for them? Of course this does not carry over to bees necessarily, but it could? It seems Florida has unique problems and quite a bit of feed experimentation is taking place there. The high sugar content is interesting and is used to speed consumption to head off SHB infestation, but also means a very low protein level. As mentioned before, I don't consider protein level to be as important as knowing what else the bees are getting with it. Sugar seems to be a good dilutant and not harmful. Thanks to all who are writing, on and off-list (even the flames). I'm travelling today, so if I am not replying, it is just that. *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Access BEE-L directly at: http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A0=BEE-L