>What I wondered is whether they *ever* got light in late sumer or fall No My bees usually in 2.5 boxes Shallow on yr round (top), first honey stored, winter reserve, etc Yes tech transfer came late jun/07 Tested for VD, TM, nosema minor VD and TM left (after FA). No nosema What is the test for ccd Alan? dave *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Access BEE-L directly at: http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A0=BEE-L