> CCD colonies don't necessarily abscond. We've had colonies on bee counters - they lose waves of bees, sometimes lots in a day, then fewer, then another wave of loses. Some beekeepers did report a form of swarming in stockpile yards A bit unclear. If you mean abscond implies a swarm-type event then I agree ccd depopulation is not a "classical" abscond It does indeed take ~ 1 week or more to unfold But the end result is the same -- an empty hive (or essentially empty) Before 07 I have never seen this or anything like it dave *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html