Randy and all, I have been observing what Randy is in Michigan. PMS with some snotty brood in some hives in some yards even though they all get similar treatment. Also I am seeing the same incidents of DWV wings here and there without huge amounts of mites in the hives. I really don't like to see it. It's important to get the honey off the hives ASAP to treat again. I strongly feel that we can't go over 3 months without treatment for mites if their is brood present. Period. k Kirk Jones Sleeping Bear Farms beekeepers making honey... Benzie Playboys cajun and zydeco band........ *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html