> Has anyone heard of a beekeeper losing a large number of bee hives. I was > told that someone lost about 10,000 or more hives. Has anyone heard of > this. What is the largest number that anyone has heard of. The Adee's might fall into this category but I have not heard exact figures. I received today my last order of CD'S on CCD from the National convention. I will have listened to all (except hobby/sideline) when done with these and certain CD's several times taking notes) Jeff Pettis explains that to rule a hive CCD they need to rule out first varroa and nosema as a possible cause of the hive crash. He explains they have in their opinion ruled out for the most part many of the things many beekeepers feel are at the root of CCD. Also Jeff said this year in California the rapid decline is a factor in their listing CCD as a cause. He says many of the CCD hives they looked at in almonds this January had the number of frames of bees written on the box ( 9-12 frames and the date) and then 2 weeks later the hives were down to 3 frames. he said in fifty percent of the hives they did not get a single varroa in a roll of 300 bees. 30% of the sample detected had nosema issues. He said hives tested which were not crashing many times had as high a nosema load. So far the best CD on the subject I have listened to so far. I also received the 3 nosema seminar CD's but have not listened to yet. The paperwork with the CD's says nothing about me talking about whets on the CD's. The CD can be ordered from Conference Recording service,inc. www.conferencerecording.com NBC98-399 1 of 1 "Coping with Colony Collapse Disorder" Dr. Jeff Pettis & Dennis vanEnglesdorp To date maybe the best CD to order. Attending is best but these CD's are close. The reason is you can pause and listen again till you understand exactly what is being said. In fact I believe I will order even when I attend. Then I could spend a larger amount of time in the hallways talking directly with other beekeepers and not miss a presentation. Sincerely, Bob Harrison Ps. please send Dave Cushman a card as Dave has done so much for internet beekeeping. His web site stands alone and he has spent countless hours on discussion lists. Dave has been on BEE-L longer than I have. Dave goes back to the start of BEE-L! I have sought out his advice on many issues over the years! **************************************************** * General Information About BEE-L is available at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/default.htm * ****************************************************