Another point that hasn't been mentioned is what do the organic farm operations do with the large profits they make from their high priced yuppie foods? I've come to know a great many organic farm operations in California over the past 25 years via selling organically approved pesticides to them. I've found the owners and high salaried managers of most of these big organic farm operations buy big homes and vehicles and live the the same highly resource consumptive lifestyles as industrial farmers with similar high incomes. Thus I feel the ultimate objective of organic farmers is the same as industrial farmers: making enough money to support an affluent lifestyle. Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif. ****************************************************** * Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm * ******************************************************