In a message dated 24/04/2007 02:24:58 GMT Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: If the all the above Bailey said was true in the U.S. would we have lost over a million commercial hives to TM in the 80's when TM arrived? Were the hives lost to TM or with TM? ie was it the TM that killed them or a virus that thrives under the same conditions? Chris ****************************************************** * Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm * ******************************************************