James writes: there is tangible evidence that one can examine in the form of old foundation mills. Reply: It is good of you to post this. Then added to this is the way work was done then, using them that resulted in smaller variance, vs more modern assembly lines with fudge factors of stretching. For until one physically works with actual embossing rollers dipping wax by hand the old way to understand the principles, you cannot visualize what has transpired and changed......... Best Regards, Dee- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com) -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---