Many years ago I read of studies at a university that compared extracted weights from identical supers with 10, nine and eight frames. They proved that hives with nine frames held more than those with 10 frames, and hives with eight frames held more honey than those with nine frames. I cannot provide a reference. I have long used eight frames in my extracting supers and can tell you from personal experience that supers with eight frames full of honey weigh considerably more than the same size supers with either nine or 10 frames. However, I no longer use spacers and instead set the spacing by eye when I put the supers on the hive. This might not be practical if hired help is used. Please keep in mind: 1- Foundation cannot be properly drawn with only eight frames in a super. My experience is that it is best to draw foundation with 10 frames in a super, although in a good flow it is possible to draw good foundation with nine frames in a super. 2- Spacers provide good space for wax moth larvae to escape attention by the bees. This is likely to be a problem only in those areas with long cold winters. 3- Spacers make it impossible to keep supers free of propolis as the frame rest cannot be scraped. If you will provide an address I will be glad to mail you an eight-frame spacer. It should be easy to get someone to make them out of aluminum. Best regards, -- Lloyd Spear Owner Ross Rounds, Inc. Manufacture of equipment for round comb honey sections, Sundance Pollen Traps, and producer of Sundance custom labels. Contact your dealer or www.RossRounds.com -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---