Mike writes: And, I know you will argue with this, Dee, but i believe the results are clear enough. Reply: Sure are......Dennis Arp is as Northern Arizona in the snow/mountains as you can get in Flagstaff, Arizona and between elevation and latitude not condusive to AHB in the natural for scuts, and knowing how he keeps bees (LC bees too) with various treatments.....can sure understand why his are stressed, sick and upset......I would be too. :>) Sorry don't you know anyone down in the heartland of Arizona or south, Yuma area? Respectfully submitted, Dee A. Lusby Small Cell Commercial Beekeeper Moyza, Arizona http://groups.yahoo.com/group/organicbeekeepers/ __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---