>>It can be useful, occasionally it will yield a super or two, at least in the the southern part of the UK. The honey crystallises extremely fast. Is ivy so common in your area or is it such a prolific producer of nectar? In my neck of the woods, ivy is not common. I would not expect surplus from it. But it could be useful in up-keeping the brood-rearing. And I am looking for ornamental vines to plant in the garden that would of use to the bees as well. I have recently checked into kudzu and everything that I've read says I would not be able to contain it. They say porcelain berry is invasive as well. I will plant a hardy passion fruit vine next year. I've heard it was good for the bees and produces edible fruit. Waldemar Long Island, NY -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---