Scott wrote "In other forms of agrictulture, this can pretty much be done the same. Just take your best fields and keep them for seed instead of sale for next year. That's breeding too." No, it cannot be done that way, not if you want to keep the bank from taking your best fields. Commercial farmers get seed and stock from tissue culture specialists, hybrid seed specialists etc..I have friends where I used to live in parts of Africa and Papua New Guinea that do what you suggest, but believe me you wouldn't want to live on their salaries. There is nothing noble about primitive agriculture. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::