Hi Dee and Everyone, Barry has been the administrator at biobee since it's inception. He also runs www.beesource.com which is much more flexible and user/administrator friendly when compared to the Yahoo based groups. Biobee was really a duplication of effort for him. He has decided to re-focus his efforts at beesource, which is really a supercenter for beekeeping information. Barry's reference to "more narrow in tolerance" refered to your own Organic group. Organic beekeeping is a narrow slice of beekeeping in general, and Dee's organic group is even a narrower slice of organic beekeeping. The "more narrow in tolerance" refers to the range of beekeeping topics and not to anyone in particular. The last time I looked at Organic Groups homepage, at least nine items were on the 'no' list. I think discussion there is define more by what isn't discussed than by what is discussed. Hence the narrower tolerance for discussion, not beekeepers. I would like to thank Barry for contributing his time and energy over the last 4 years. I know that biobee was an important medium for sharing during my small cell experience. But most of that information is now available on all the lists. Anyone can obtain it with a seach. I think it's unfortunate that Barry's simple good bye note was taken so personally. There's no one who has provided a open platform for beekeeping alternatives, especially small cell, than Barry. Take care Barry. I know that you have a life beyond the bees. Regards Dennis :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::