Hi Allen and Everyone, Tom Seeley also published the info in a Bee Culture article last year. Off the top of my head, he recently found about 9 feral hives in the same area he had located about 13 ferals in the 1970's. And he still had to survey a significant portion of that area to complete the comparison. I haven't seen figures for the final tally. Regards Dennis :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::