Bob said: > The task of proving * beyound a reasonable doubt* Imidacloprid > is the cause of current bee problems * in the U.S.* is formidable. Proof "beyond reasonable doubt" would be required in a criminal case, but in civil lawsuits, only a "preponderance of the evidence" is required to obtain a judgment. > Linking bee problems flying through a maze after being exposed to > neonicotinoids will be pointed out by chemical company lawyers > as different than actual beekeeping situations. I find it 100% the same as "actual beekeeping". I, like many beekeepers use Lloyd's "Sundance" pollen traps, which are, in layman's terms, a simple maze that must be navigated by bees returning to the hive. > and if so then chemical companies will have to put a bee warning on > the products containing imidacloprid. I do not see the imidacloprid > products being pulled *only* because of honey bee loss. Did anyone expect products to be pulled off the market solely because of impact on bees? I would expect a warning label like: Do not use on crops that provide pollen and/or nectar that may be foraged by honey bees. rather than: Do not use on planets known to host the species Apis mellifera Dr. Atkins of the "Atkins diet" suffered a massive heart attack in 2002, and died at 72 weighing 258 pounds. He was 6 feet tall. He was clearly "obese". So shut up about "carbs", and pass the honey. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::