Bob said:

> The task of proving * beyound a reasonable doubt* Imidacloprid
> is the cause of current bee problems * in the U.S.* is formidable.

Proof "beyond reasonable doubt" would be required in a criminal case,
but in civil lawsuits, only a "preponderance of the evidence" is
required to obtain a judgment.

> Linking bee problems flying through a maze after being exposed to
> neonicotinoids  will be pointed out by chemical company lawyers
> as different than actual beekeeping situations.

I find it 100% the same as "actual beekeeping".  I, like many beekeepers
use Lloyd's "Sundance" pollen traps, which are, in layman's terms, a
simple maze that must be navigated by bees returning to the hive.

> and if so then chemical companies will have to put a bee warning on
> the products containing imidacloprid. I do not see the imidacloprid
> products being pulled *only* because of honey bee loss.

Did anyone expect products to be pulled off the market solely because
of impact on bees?  I would expect a warning label like:

        Do not use on crops that provide pollen and/or
      nectar that may be foraged by honey bees.

rather than:

        Do not use on planets known to host the species Apis mellifera



              Dr. Atkins of the "Atkins diet" suffered
              a massive heart attack in 2002, and died
              at 72 weighing 258 pounds.  He was 6 feet
              tall.  He was clearly "obese".
              So shut up about "carbs", and pass the honey.

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