To Bob and Murray. About what percentage of the time would you guess that the bees make a new queen above the queen excluder and you end up with a two queen hive using the method that Murray now uses, and Bob used to? Thanks much. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::