Dee said: Also we do not believe in clipped queens due to AI. Bob Replied: You lost me here? What does a clipped wing or instrumental insemination of a queen have to do with the purity of honey. Reply: Quite a lot in the long run on a continuing breeding program, for it will effect disease and parasites, which will then effect how the situations are handled. . .i.e. clean or dirty. Here natural outbreeding is better then man controlled AI. After all, don't people see organics as natral? Bob Harrison then wrote: Will eating honey from a hive headed by a queen bee with a clipped queen or has been inseminated cause a health problem ( or are you simply trying to set a standard for organic honey which most will give up on before they try because of severe limitions in their present beekeeping practices?) Reply: No it will not here if taken in this sense. But organic beekeeping is more then just producing so-called clean honey. To me IMPOV an organic program that has problems of disease and predators and parasites is no real organic program for organic beekeeping should be in harmony with Nature. When all ducks line up and the problems with the bees necessatating the various doping ways stop, and the bees become healthy, strong, and continuing with basic field manipulative management, then you have arrived. Bob Harrison further wrote: Hope you carry excellent product liability insurance? The paper work is to protect the drug makers and not you if a problem arises! My brother is a lawyer. Reply: Good your brother is a lawyer, then he would know that if the honey is bought for zero tolerance and medical usage by the pharmacies, then they are going to protect it and sort/seek it out! Yes, they indeed know what it is worth and will protect it. Sincerely, Dee A. Lusby Commercial Beekeeper http:groups.yahoo.com/group/organicbeekeepers __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::