"Yes light seems to become a problem, getting up close. I notice that the lens, the camera and my big fat head block the light from the usual source, the sun. I tried some white paper as a reflector, but that often seems to desturb the insects, just as the lens that is poked up their nose! The standard flash misses the subject in these conditions, so perhaps a ringflash as with the medical Nikkor lens might help (even to empty your bank account in one hit" Actually, I disagree with all these points. Use the sun, the sun is the best source of light for your photos. If there's a shadow, just move to another side. It works better, and doesn't cost anything. I've posted several pictures just now so you can see how I took advantage of just plain daylight. The honeycomb I just went over to my truck, and pulled out a super that I harvested today, and leaned my camera against a hive top to steady it. http://tvaughan.suddenlaunch2.com/index.cgi? board=Bees&action=display&num=1055811665 Regards Tim :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::