Dave wrote " Phone the Fire Brigade and explain what needs to be done and they will despatch a turntable ladder or a cherry picker type vehicle to assist you." Hey, that's a great idea, the Fire Department is one of the bodies that call me with swarm control requests. I'll have to try that. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::