Hi Tim & all > http://webpages.charter.net/tvaughan/blackbees.html I'll stick my neck out and say mainly carniolan for the bees in Tim's pictures. Thanks for the replies on my original picture problem. I have the Primorski scheduled, but I am still stuck for a large picture of a caucasian worker. Best Regards & 73s, Dave Cushman, G8MZY Beekeeping and Bee Breeding Website http://website.lineone.net/~dave.cushman :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::