> Does this make a difference? Don't see that it would effect the bees comb > drawing. Do you think it would? Clay - Assuming these combs are from the bait hives (http://www.beesource.com/pov/lusby/trip/35.htm), I think it's fair to say that there is a possibility that this system would show different results than a swarm that starts completely from scratch without the pheromone and the remaining comb stubs. It certainly should be mentioned in the results as it differs from a truly "natural" hive. Surely pheromones do something to bees or it wouldn't be used. I have no idea in this case if it changes the comb positioning or sequence, but there is a way to find out. Is it not important to know all the facts about what is being reported? A more convincing comb would be one that came from a feral swarm housed in a cavity without any aids. I'm still skeptical about using combs hanging from a tree branch to support the reasoning for matching it in our box hives, when a closer match would be comb from bees living in some type of cavity where there aren't the same influences on them from nature. I'd like to see either, but especially comb from cavities. Time to build that bee vac this winter and look closer at the cut-outs next year. Does Matthew W. have any observations here? I see he has done quite a few removals over the last few years. Regards, Barry