Allen Dick's note to the list is EXACTLY correct, and should be understood by all. The use of Epipen's has been mentioned. Please take CAUTION here. My doctor refuses to prescribe one for anyone over 40, as he fears the risk of heart attack symptoms are just too great. Epipens can and have saved lives...they have also killed. During the years I was going through the stages described by Allen (I can no longer find a sting site) I carried a baggie with a small amount of baking powder. Baking powder combined with a small amount of water (just enough to keep it from falling off the skin) and applied IMMEDIATELY (say, within 10 minutes) to a site will prevent all itching and swelling. The alkaline serves to somehow offset the acid poison of the sting and prevents those symptoms (at least in me). Lloyd Lloyd Spear, Owner of Ross Rounds, manufacturer of comb honey equipment for beekeepers and Sundance pollen traps. http://www.rossrounds.com [log in to unmask]