I stand by my original post.about Dr. Hoffman (representative to the = ABF convention from the Tucson bee lab). =20 When I asked at the end of her talk if we were talking about capensis = her answer was "you are exactly right". =20 Bob, You talk about doors slamming in your face, I'm not surprised. Why would they want to talk with you if they know you are taking statements that were said in private and now making them public as if it was gospel? I'm surprised it is being allowed on this list in this form. She did not represent the lab when she spoke to you in private, she represented herself. The lab representation was her talk in public. Please don't continue to support this one private remark as something that it isn't. We must always guard our private conversations. mark _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx