Hello All, Thanks to Aaron for finding the post I was talking about! http://listserve.albany.edu:8080/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0011D&L=bee-1&P=R1612 The archives are a wonderful source of imformation which would otherwise be lost if talk was only taking place between two beekeepers through regular email. November of 2000 when I did the post there was no response by Texas & Arizona beekeepers as to the color of the AHB they were working. Maybe beekeepers will comment this time around? Just because AHB movement has slowed to a crawl doesn't mean we may not have to deal with AHB sometime in the future. Be a informed beekeeper! As per my post A.mellifera S. is easily reconized over the darker races of adansonii. I apoligise to John Edwards for missunderstanding the information he was looking for. I have never heard (or read) that queens of adansonii were raised and passed out BEFORE the accidental release. I tried to call my source of information in another state. I will see what I can find out about the subject. Also if I can use his name. John Edwards probbably has allready quessed his name. If John worked with Tabor then he most likely worked with my friend. My friend has talked about working with Steve Tabor in Baton Rouge but hasn't talked about working with John Edwards. My friend said Steve Tabor was totally obsessed with beekeeping in those days and every subject they talked about eventually went back to a beekeeping subject. The U.S. has been lucky to have had MANY excellent researchers throughout its beekeeping history. John Edwards & Steve Tabor are part of the group. Sincerely, Bob Harrison Odessa, Missouri