>It irks me that we label honey as #1 white #2 light golden etc and >understood by the public is that white is better than any other. Here in Canada our system is somewhat better than what you describe whereever you are Peter. The system however is still not well understood by the public. The number and colour provide two different pieces of information. You can have #1 Dark. What is not understood by the public is the suttle differences between the #s 1,2,&3 and what pasturization "really" means with respect to honey. In Prepackaged Honey we are allowed White, Golden, Amber, & Dark. In Bulk containers, White can be broken into Extra White or White and Amber is broken into Light Amber and Dark Amber. The Number or "Grade" refers to the levels of moisture, foreign material, texture and any off flavour. Canada #1 having the most stringent regs and Canada #3 the least. David Tharle Ardmore, AB