Hello all, I did a post on IBL regarding bee sting research so thought i would run on bee-L to try to find out if anyone knows if his research was successful. I have searched and can not find the doctors card. I believe if you contact Troy Fore of the American Beekeeping Federation he could supply the doctors phone number. I do believe i remember his name and city from his talk. Maybe a California beekeeper or ABF member at the convention could correct me if i am wrong. Dr. Steve Carstens MD. La Jolla , California Dr. Carstens gave a talk and took donated beekeeper blood at the 1993 ABF convention in Kansas City, Missouri. He had a nurse with him and was set up the first day. I came the second day and he allready had all the blood he needed. The doctor told us that from 2 liters of blood he could make 500 shots which when given to a person likely to experiance anaphlaxis they would not experiance any reaction at all just like the beekeeper with imunity. He had found in beekeepers blood the whatever that causes beekeepers to be imune from stings. He said in two years the shots would be available with FDA approval. If any readers of bee-l know if his shots were approved or the status of his research i have interested people. Thanks! Bob harrison U.S.A.