CHRS: IBMPC 2 CODEPAGE: 850 MSGID: 240:244/186 8174f62a REPLY: 240:44/0 202e8dcf PID: FDAPX/w 1.13 UnReg(48) The only times I have heard the queen piping (twice in 22 years) is when I have been in danger of squashing her or I have separated her in a super from the rest of the hive and she has protested and demanded that I put her back at once! Chris Slade --- * Origin: Beenet Point (240:244/186)