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Re: [BEE-L] Carniolan Italian F1 crosses and temperament

From:Geert van Eizenga 	
Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:11:48 +0100

Hallo Deanne!

Before going into a lot of theoretical issues, I can tell you: not every
Carnolian behaves as a standard "Carnolian": there are a lot of differences!
And not every strain Italian bee is a gentle bee. Not every F1-cross Italian
x Carnolian is the same! Last year we bought some New Zealand queens which
are very gentle, regularly; this time they turned out vicious stingers. If
these Carnolians you have in mind to purchase are provided by a professional
queenrearer you might expect that he intends to continue to deliver the same
quality year after year.  Why not do a tryout with just a few queens. Though
I might give you another matter to consider: what about the effect of the
drones such carnolian queens will produce, later? So: you will experience
later also a tryout with daughters of your Italian queens, which will mate
consequently with the new Carnolian drones. Personally, I never liked the
swarming problems with Carnolians. That brings a lot of extra work (a job
that nature is playing with the beekeeper and can never be scheduled in
advance!)

Geert Van Eizenga

Holland/Europe

> Can anyone provide me references/citations re temperament of F1 crosses of
> Italian and Carniolans?   And particularly if directionality of the cross
> affects the result?

Green Bee Consultancy
Drs.Geert Van Eizenga
Marnelaan 41
9727 DS Groningen/Holland
Tel.+31 505278909
Mob. +31616424299

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Subject:Re: [BEE-L] Carniolan Italian F1 crosses and temperament
From:Geert van Eizenga 
Date:Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:27:42 +0100

Peter!

That is a very harsh judgment on a person that dedicated his life to the
honeybee. An judgement that is not supported by historical facts: he never
discredited the native English honeybee. My opinion is that we owe Brother
Adam a lot. We should not forget that also the so called pure-race
beekeeping, including bee wing venation practice, is based only on an
assumption, not on facts. Equally I would like to recommend to read Brother
Adams book "Breeding the honeybee". His work was based on the book of
Prof.Armbruster "Bienenzüchtungskunde", in which (1919) for the first time
in history, the laws of Mendel were applied to a domestic animal.
Unfortunately it was published in German.

Regards,
Geert Van Eizenga

> He claimed that A.m.m. had been wiped out in the UK by 'Isle of Wight
> Disease'.  This was not true - and it is believed that he knew that.  What a
> pity that he did not devote his energy to preserving our native bee rather
> than importing exotic races.  He did beekeeping in the UK a great
> disservice.

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Green Bee Consultancy
Drs.Geert Van Eizenga
Marnelaan 41
9727 DS Groningen/Holland
Tel.+31 505278909
Mob. +31616424299

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