>
>> We monitored Idiopathic Brood Disease Syndrome (IBDS), a syndrome first
>> described by Shimanuki et al. (1994), but renamed here because its
>> underlying cause it yet unknown.
>
>>NOTE: This is a reference to Shimanuki, H., Calderone, N.W., Knox, D.A.,
>>1994. Parasitic mite syndrome: the symptoms. Am. Bee J. 134, 827–828.
>
 Dr. Shiminuki spoke about IBDS as above and actually other *at the time*
yet
 to be named virus issues .
 Parasitic mite syndrome (PMS) was the name "Shim" and the USDA-ARS decided
 on to  simplify the issue.

As the above says the name parasitic mite syndrome includes IBDS.

> Trying to make the case we would see large scale losses from IBDS without
> varroa is in my opinion a stretch.

I have came across researchers trying to pick from PMS and make a larger
issue as "Shim" said would happen in his talks many years ago. I attended 
four Shiminuki presentations in a single year in 1995.

When IBDS or IAPV
starts killing hives in Australia in a country without varroa it will get my
attention.

For me PMS still fits when varroa is involved. I have observed plenty of 
IBDS but always in hives with high varroa load. Nothing new *in my humble 
opinion*.

bob

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