Hello Allen and All,

Allen wrote:
DNA techniques are quite recent and comparisons depend completely on having correctly identified samples in the first place.
If the bees brought to America in the first place were Africanised, and tended-unlike those of the recent wave-to gather and remain in pockets here and there under pressure from Europeanization and domestic beekeeping, then maybe current spotty sampling and DNA identification is flawed.

I agree with the above Allen has posted and several UDSA researchers have privately and some publicly agree with the above. They feel the original samples could have been wrong and even wing venation early samples might not be correct   Ruttner  has voiced concern over the above as  early as 1975  when he was looking at the wing venation work of DuPraw of a decade earlier.
Sincerely,
Bob Harrison