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Karen Oland <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:22:27 -0400
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The fascination of female genitalia for male scientists not-withstanding,
research on disease has focused primarily on males until very recently.
Possibly because prison populations available for study were male dominated,
definitely because it never occured to men that women would react
differently
or have different disease patterns. Even now, many drugs have never been
properly researched on women (new studies have not been required on those
already on the market) and new drugs are seldom tested on children, either
because it is not cost effective or no need is seen. So dosages remain for
the "typical" adult, which is vastly different for the average man and
woman,
our penchant for salad bars not-withstanding, and are usually halved or
quartered for children, based upon a perceived weight difference.

Women in science have made great strides in acheiving parity in the sciences
(and now make more as free-lance consultants in the computer field than
their
male counterparts, although not as full-time employees). However, I don't
think
you would find a concensus amongst all women scientists that it has "not
been
difficult for women to get ahead" for the entire time period since Mme.
Curie,
do you?

That all said, it has nothing to do with bees and neither did most of your
comments. I doubt male bees are insulted by "pc" views, whatever the media
has made those out to be this week, as they are insects. The human need to
anthropomorphize those around us has no place in the search for truth in bee
behavior. Unless it is your assertion that upon finding that male bees are
mostly useless has led male researchers to quickly abandon any research into
the subject, lest they have to publish such findings, which would reflect
badly on males the world over?

K

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Mann
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:59 AM

...have warned
since varroa arrived in my country last year, methods to control varroa are
likely to be pushed, without sufficient justification, based on the sexist
assumption that the males are useless & expendable.  This is the actual
attitude of the dominant political ideology over the past couple decades;
if human males are so insulted, what would you expect for A. mell. males  -
and they are mere haploids to boot!
        The extreme lack of research on drones gives the lie (as does a
great deal of other evidence) to the claim by WimminsLib ideology that
science has been a domain of male dominance & exploitation.  This is a
crude big lie.  Since Mme Curie it has not been difficult for women to get
ahead in science, and it is false to claim that science has neglected
females or female needs.  For instance, there has been far more attention
to diseases of the female genitalia than the male.  A genuinely
male-fixated science would have researched the male bee far more than has
actually been done.

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