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Jim said:> concerns about the benzaldehyde

> That's actual product disparagement. I think you also accused
> me of a felony there without even realizing it.


Oh my gosh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disparage you in any way!  And I
certainly do not consider you to be a felon!
I didn't realize that benzaldehyde is used in meth labs--I have enough
trouble buying Sudafed for my hayfever.

And I have nothing against benz--I eat plenty in almond cookies, and get it
all over my hands when I prune my peach trees.  And have used it straight in
fume boards.

I realize how poorly I phrased my questions to you, and I apologize.

Let me try again.

Jim, you are clearly an expert on vapors in bee hives, and on smoke in bee
hives, and I greatly respect your knowledge.

My question to you should have been, Based upon your knowledge of vapors in
a bee hive, and now knowing what amounts of ethanol were used, and knowing
that ethanol has little effect upon AFB spores, nor apparently upon the
vegetative stage, do you still feel that it is likely that the small amount
of ethanol applied would have had any effect on AFB in an in vivo trial
within field colonies?

And a second question:

When I was researching how to dissolve thymol into syrup, I found that
ethanol has a relatively low toxicity to insects in general.  Now that you
know the amounts involved, and based upon your knowledge of physics and
biology, are you still of the opinion that adding the low concentrations of
ethanol in the unfortunately named P.E.E. (this name could result in serious
misunderstandings of instructions for application of the product to the
hive), would have any probable deleterious effects on the bees that we
should worry about?

I apologize again for the poor phrasing of my previous post.

Sincerely,
Randy Oliver

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