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>> HFCS contains two sugars which shorten bees lives. In fact kill bees when 
>> spiked into syrup in certain doses (that can be found in off spec HFCS).

Note the mention of *off-spec* HFCS, not properly certified HFCS.

> I'm looking forward to your article, Bob.  Northern Calif beekeepers got 
> hit hard by bad syrup this year.

Too bad they don't read BEE-L.  Coulda saved them mega grief.  There was a 
major loss throughout central Canada a few years ago, and this was discussed 
in depth here on BEE, including mention of the studies that Dr. Rob Currie 
in Manitoba did on HFCS feeding.  He established that properly first quality 
documented HFCS of the type made with the enzyme process (as opposed to 
off-spec or syrup produced by an acid process) comes very close to sucrose 
in his longevity tests conducted with caged bees.  I'm sure he has the 
slides somewhere and would provide them on request.

> Do you have any info re any differences to bees between cane and beet 
> sugar?

Rob would be one source, in regard to the effect on bees, and might provide 
other references, too.  He, as with most researchers I've met, is very 
helpful and willing to share information.  He is also a good speaker, for 
those looking to fill a convention or meeting slot.

http://www.umanitoba.ca/afs/entomology/staff/faculty/curriepage.html

> Too much HMF, and possibly other problems. Many use 50:50 sucrose:HFCS. 
> some pure sucrose syrup.

If a number of syrups were involved, sounds to me like something else, with 
syrup getting the blame.

allen

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