Bob:  So many misunderstandings that I don't 
know where to begin!  If I write more clearly 
will you read more closely? 
 
Formic: Yes I have experience, 10 yrs ago, hence my dislike 
A full size pad is best, but not for a nuc for a few reasons  
It does work very well, when too hot dilute a calculated 
amount and they won't kill Queen (down to 40%) 
 
Why does formic have an effect on bees that do NOT have TM??? 
Is n. cerena sensitive to formic??? 
 
Skunks: I was refering to the biological warfare aspect 
 
Since i'm in canada and since long guns are awkward to drag 
around I use eggs. BTW does anyone know how well cats 
handle an asperin OD?  I can just see it: See bear,  
lift 22, say damn, damn, damn, should I or shouldn't I....... 
 
BTW most hoppers don't hop, its just a name 
Most crawl up a grass stem, fall, repeat until death 
in grass they usually only go 5 - 10', most <5' 
You can be sure that I checked the other hives very closely 
This was the only one with hoppers 
 
>Yet unnamed. Symptoms unknown. 
We might guess that it interferes with flying or homing or 
makes them restless (in that order) 
 
Yes my data strongly suggests an infective agent 
That's why I only picked hoppers & there were NO young  
bees in this nuc yet --  pollen apr 18 should be a good clue 
 
BP was very clear that if she did not see TM  
then it was not there 
 
dave 
 
 

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